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    Tremulous isn't free (as in freedom) software?

    Does anyone know why the game Tremulous is in the Muliverse repository rather than Universe? From what I can tell from the 'Copyright' files, the code is under the GNU GPL except for a few exceptions under other compatible free licences such as the Zlib licence, and the 'media' is under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike Licence, which I'd have thought also counts as a free licence.

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    Re: Tremulous isn't free (as in freedom) software?

    I believe it even uses the gpl'd quake 3 engine.

    Check out the wikipedia.org article:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tremulous

    Maybe this is something worth metioning to the Ubuntu repository MOTUs. See this page for MOTU contact info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
    Last edited by Sammi; January 3rd, 2007 at 11:07 AM.

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    Re: Tremulous isn't free (as in freedom) software?

    I believe it lives in multiverse because its a community provided package, but I could be wrong.

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    Re: Tremulous isn't free (as in freedom) software?

    hi

    Tremulous is in repository?? where? FOr dapper 64 bit?

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    Re: Tremulous isn't free (as in freedom) software?

    Searching on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ gave me these results under dapper backports:
    Package Search Results

    You have searched for packages that names contain tremulous in distribution edgy, all sections, and all architectures.


    Found 4 matching packages, displaying packages 1 to 4.
    Package tremulous
    • edgy (games): Aliens vs Humans, team based FPS game with elements of an RTS [multiverse]
      1.1.0-2: amd64 i386 powerpc
    Package tremulous-data
    • edgy (games): Tremulous datas [multiverse]
      1.1.0-1: all
    Package tremulous-doc
    • edgy (games): Tremulous documentation [multiverse]
      1.1.0-2: all
    Package tremulous-server
    • edgy (games): Tremulous server [multiverse]
      1.1.0-2: amd64 i386 powerpc
    I'm not 100% sure about this, but I think you can just add these lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list file and it should show up in Synaptic:
    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
    deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
    You edit sources.list by doing this command:
    gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list

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    /usr/share/games/tremulous/base/map-atcs-1.1.0.pk3

    You know one of the top maps ATCS? It contains media that is non-free culture.

    So, in your maps folder that came with your game: (if you installed it through synaptic or apt-get , then it can be found at
    Code:
    /usr/share/games/tremulous/base/map-atcs-1.1.0.pk3
    You can open it with for example "Archive Manager" and inside you find the file
    Code:
    atcs.txt
    There under [ other notices ] you find
    Code:
    textures by yves allaire fall under this license:
    
       http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/
    Also textures from shaderlab:
    Other non-commercial applications are considered on a case-by-case basis via e-mail.
    which is the only mention of commercial rights, meaning that it probably falls under a similar license to cc-by-nc-sa , so you are not allowed to use it for commercial purposes.

    So the stated media being under CC-BY-SA 2.5 is false. I guess they didn't think it priority one to make it clear WHAT is licensed under WHICH license.

    A quick look. The popular map Niveus also has textures from yves allair:
    textures by yves allaire fall under this license:

    http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd-nc/1.0/
    Quick link if you've installed Tremulous from Synaptic or apt-get or any other package manager:
    Code:
    /usr/share/games/tremulous/base/map-niveus-1.1.0.pk3
    (open map-niveus-1.1.0.pk3) and inside you find the file
    Code:
    niveus.txt
    This can help also as a reference on why Tremulous is in Multiverse
    Last edited by darkazurka; November 13th, 2009 at 08:42 PM. Reason: Niveus also has CC-BY-ND-NC license no derivs non-commercial
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